Pat Thetic: There are. They just haven’t been shot yet.
Pat Thetic: Not in the US right now.
Chris #2: Yeah, absolutely (with an ironic voice). We tried to sound like The Clash on every record but we’re apparently getting better at it. No, I mean our favorite records are our favorite records. Our favorite bands are our favorite bands. We’re always going to be influenced by what’s going on. I do think that perhaps there is a bit more of a Clash vibe on this record because we were making a conscious effort to go back to what inspired us to pick up instruments in the first place. And that was the Clash’s selftitled record. That was Dead Kennedys „Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death“. That were core albums that caused each one of us to say „I wanna play music“. We were certainly going back to these things when we were writing the album.
|Chris#2 (right) and Pat Thetic (middle) during the interview|
with Tinnitus Attacks. Foto: Melanie Braith
Pat Thetic: We always work with AI. Over the years we’ve done a lot of work with them. The great thing about Amnesty is they’re one of the organizations that get shit done and actually save peoples lives. There are some places where we can’t work with Amnesty cause we’re a little too inflammatory. But there’s other places we fit in well and any time we can work with them we do it. We have an open dialogue. They have a really great music person.
|Political statements are a part of the bands message.|
Foto: Daniel Drescher
Chris #2: I also think the zero end goal is why it’s so important. It’s like many of the greatest battles in civil rights. If you say this battle is for gay marriage, you don’t just decide that it’s over. You’re fighting for equality. Or talking about segregation in the States and the racial movements we had at that time period. It’s wasn’t like „Ok, schools are integrated now, racism is over“. I think with the occupy movement you can’t say it’s a movement standing against greed, so once everybody has health care it’s over. That’s one of the things that’s so inspiring. It’s not „Hey, we're here to end the war and when it’s over we go home.“
Tinnitus Attacks. Talking about politics: What do you expect from the presidential elections?
Chris #2: I’ll expect that Obama wins.
Pat Thetic: I expect a lot of money to be spent. I expect a lot of things will happen but will leave no consequence.
Chris #2: We’ll hear the word abortion a lot.
Pat Thetic: Yeah, and everyobody will be afraid of gay marriage. And then I think Obama is gonna win. And I am hoping – I was hopeful last time – that there will be change. Obama at least pretends to be on our team. More than any politician has been in the last 30 years. Whether he’s really on our team I don’t know. He hasn’t expressed it as much as I hoped he would.
Chris #2: We’re optimists. I’m hopeful that with it being a second term and having an expiration date on his presidency put in place that he can push some shit through that helps the country and in turn helps the world. If not, we’re not gonna be like „Obama won, let’s go away“. There’s a lot to sing about and a lot to conjugate about.
Pat Thetic: People always say we’re a George W. Bush band. But we’re actually a George Bush One Band.
Chris #2: Bill Clinton, too.
Tinnitus Attacks: Punk comes from a time when the world seemed simpler. The world of today is complex. Pop songs are simple. What answer can this music still give today?
Pat Thetic: Punkrock is never about giving answers, it never was able to. You can’t solve world problems in a three minute song and screaming through most of it. But what you can do with Rock’n’Roll and art in a broder sense is to inspire people that can make real change. And we’re inspired by them. It’s a feedback cycle. We’re inspired by the people in the streets. They – on some level, not necessarily inspired by us – are inspired by music and culutre. That gives another ten kids to hit the streets. Hopefully that cycle will go on and more people will be in the streets and more great music is created.
Chris #2: Punkrock to me isn’t about a band or sound or how you look or dress. All those things on the surface you think of when you say Punkrock. For me it is a place where people can be themselves. And providing that forum is what makes us a Punkrock band. We believe that all people should be treated equally. We try to create a space for that at our show. That to me is the idea of punkrock.
Tinnitus Attacks: You speak out against injustice of all kinds. How does this affect your daily life?
Pat Thetic: Actually it affects us in our private lives in ways you can’t imagine and I won’t explain to you. But I will tell you a story. I live in a very traditional Jewish Neighbourhood. They don’t do certain things on the Sabbath, work especially. For example they have electric lights that go on and off so they don’t have to do work by turning the light on. Culturally, that’s their deal. Within my neighbourhood there are a lot of non-Jews that think that that belief structure is stupid and weird. Me, because I come from Punkrock, I have restrictions of my own life. Being vegan, not eating certaing things, just like kosher – that makes perfect sense to me. Coming from the world of Punkrock I understand crazy belief structures cause I have my own crazy belief structures. And so those ideals I have because of Punkrock have an impact on my life.